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	<title>Comments on: Costa Rica vs. Panama, round 3: People and Culture</title>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.latinworld.com/2009/costa-rica-vs-panama-round-3-people-and-culture.htm/comment-page-1#comment-23238</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 07:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raul, when I said “Universities” I wasn’t counting those tiny places where you get a business degree in 2.5 years. We have lots of those mediocre establishments in Costa Rica and it’s something I’m definitively not proud of. I was only taking into consideration serious institutions, i.e. the kind of universities that consistently publish scientific papers around the world. We have a couple of those down here.

You question my sources; well it’s no secret that Panama has a very strong wealth division. You can check the Gini index but you can also use your common sense: haven’t you noticed things in Panama are either way cheaper than in Costa Rica or way more expensive? Two markets: rich and poor. 

We have more people like that Costa Rican guide you saw giving the tour in Coiba Park: not rich, not poor, speaks a couple languages and has his own small house somewhere in San Jose.

I don’t know anything about the monkeys and macaws you mention, so I’ll go ahead and believe you. It actually makes some sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raul, when I said “Universities” I wasn’t counting those tiny places where you get a business degree in 2.5 years. We have lots of those mediocre establishments in Costa Rica and it’s something I’m definitively not proud of. I was only taking into consideration serious institutions, i.e. the kind of universities that consistently publish scientific papers around the world. We have a couple of those down here.</p>
<p>You question my sources; well it’s no secret that Panama has a very strong wealth division. You can check the Gini index but you can also use your common sense: haven’t you noticed things in Panama are either way cheaper than in Costa Rica or way more expensive? Two markets: rich and poor. </p>
<p>We have more people like that Costa Rican guide you saw giving the tour in Coiba Park: not rich, not poor, speaks a couple languages and has his own small house somewhere in San Jose.</p>
<p>I don’t know anything about the monkeys and macaws you mention, so I’ll go ahead and believe you. It actually makes some sense.</p>
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		<title>By: raul</title>
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		<dc:creator>raul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 20:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing we have to understand is that Costa Rica puts a lot of energy into making their service and tourism industry work, their national parks mostly created and maintain to attraction for tourist. 

Bigger middle class in CR than Panama?, maybe you want to check your source of information, by the way there are as many if not more Universities in Panama than Costa Rica.

One thing you have to give Costa Ricans, they are good at telling lies to visitors and sell their country as the best place in the world. 

They claim to have the largest national park in Central America but fail to mention that Darien in Panama is actually the largest.

Have you been to Costa Rica and been show the ENDEMIC Quetzal and the ENDEMIC Scarlet Macaw, the funny thing is that you find those ENDEMIC Costa Rican especies in the other Central American Countries, LOL 

I was once in Coiba National Park in Panama, a tour ship arrived and had Costa Rican guides, they have told their guest that Coiba National Park was actually part of Costa Rica, they wish!!!!

By the way: 
Species of birds in Costa Rica : around 800
Species of Birds in Panama : Over 900 close to a 1,000

Species of Monkey in Costa Rica : 4 
Species of MOnkey in Panama :     8

Species of Macaws in Costa Rica : 2
Species of Macaw in Panama:       5

Now if we go to the History: Panama offers a lot more history, from Conquistadors, privateers, 49ers, etc...

Culture: 7 very well defined Indigenous groups, rich in culture and traditions.
By the way, have you ever bought a MOLA that says Costa Rica?, they are all over Costa Rica, The Kunas and their MOLAS are from Panama and Colombia, but any Costa Rican Guide will sell it to you as part of their culture.

One thing we have to accept is that both economies are very strong and you see very few Panamanians migrating to Costa Rica or Costa Ricans to Panama looking for jobs.

Which country is best?

Mmmmmm You ask me Panama, of course I am Panamanian.
You ask Costa Ricans, Costa Rica, of course, they are sooo good at telling those lies that they have convince even themselves that they live in the best country in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing we have to understand is that Costa Rica puts a lot of energy into making their service and tourism industry work, their national parks mostly created and maintain to attraction for tourist. </p>
<p>Bigger middle class in CR than Panama?, maybe you want to check your source of information, by the way there are as many if not more Universities in Panama than Costa Rica.</p>
<p>One thing you have to give Costa Ricans, they are good at telling lies to visitors and sell their country as the best place in the world. </p>
<p>They claim to have the largest national park in Central America but fail to mention that Darien in Panama is actually the largest.</p>
<p>Have you been to Costa Rica and been show the ENDEMIC Quetzal and the ENDEMIC Scarlet Macaw, the funny thing is that you find those ENDEMIC Costa Rican especies in the other Central American Countries, LOL </p>
<p>I was once in Coiba National Park in Panama, a tour ship arrived and had Costa Rican guides, they have told their guest that Coiba National Park was actually part of Costa Rica, they wish!!!!</p>
<p>By the way:<br />
Species of birds in Costa Rica : around 800<br />
Species of Birds in Panama : Over 900 close to a 1,000</p>
<p>Species of Monkey in Costa Rica : 4<br />
Species of MOnkey in Panama :     8</p>
<p>Species of Macaws in Costa Rica : 2<br />
Species of Macaw in Panama:       5</p>
<p>Now if we go to the History: Panama offers a lot more history, from Conquistadors, privateers, 49ers, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Culture: 7 very well defined Indigenous groups, rich in culture and traditions.<br />
By the way, have you ever bought a MOLA that says Costa Rica?, they are all over Costa Rica, The Kunas and their MOLAS are from Panama and Colombia, but any Costa Rican Guide will sell it to you as part of their culture.</p>
<p>One thing we have to accept is that both economies are very strong and you see very few Panamanians migrating to Costa Rica or Costa Ricans to Panama looking for jobs.</p>
<p>Which country is best?</p>
<p>Mmmmmm You ask me Panama, of course I am Panamanian.<br />
You ask Costa Ricans, Costa Rica, of course, they are sooo good at telling those lies that they have convince even themselves that they live in the best country in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.latinworld.com/2009/costa-rica-vs-panama-round-3-people-and-culture.htm/comment-page-1#comment-13870</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 23:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is plain lame. panama vs costa rica? seriously?

in other parts of the world the territory where panama and costa rica are located would be probably the same country.

in one thing we most agree, panama and costa rica are by far the best destinations in all Central America. and some of the best in the entire continent.

If you are into old civilizations research and anthropology i truly recommend you to go to Guatemala or Mexico.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is plain lame. panama vs costa rica? seriously?</p>
<p>in other parts of the world the territory where panama and costa rica are located would be probably the same country.</p>
<p>in one thing we most agree, panama and costa rica are by far the best destinations in all Central America. and some of the best in the entire continent.</p>
<p>If you are into old civilizations research and anthropology i truly recommend you to go to Guatemala or Mexico.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 04:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny,

First of all, Costa Rica is not a famous banking center and it will never be; it would be really stupid to claim otherwise. Banking sucks in Costa Rica, everything takes 2 or 3 permits and several weeks.

Second of all, the post from March 9th DOES say that Panama is &quot;second largest international banking center&quot; therefore comment on the 19th.

Third of all, Panama is only modern if you look at the few blocks of the financial district and maybe some nice neighborhoods like Costa del Este, Paitilla, etc. May I remind you Panama has 75000 km2, how much of that is modern? … Not to mention that if (by mistake) you drive into the ghetto areas they make Costa Rica’s worst neighborhoods look like child play. It happened to me, I got lost and drove to “Chorrillos” (or something like that)… I almost shit in my pants.

Forth of all, I never said the author of this article was Panamanian or desperate, I wasn&#039;t talking about him. I think it’s pretty obvious to everyone who reads this site he’s not Panamanian, he’s probably Northamerican.

Fifth of all, if Panama is so much better, why is it so hard to find skilled labor in Panama? How come Intel hasn&#039;t moved to Panama? How come most Ticos in Panama are hired by call centers but most Panamanians in Costa Rica are taxi drivers? How come most of your skilled labor comes from other countries? How come Costa Rica still gets better Gini Index values and better Quality-Of-Life rankings? How come we are happier? 

But to be fair, Panama gets shit done. Costa Rica doesn’t.  Panama has a well defined high class that runs the country, to their benefit of course, but at least they DO something. Here in Costa Rica everything takes forever. You see, I’m criticizing Costa Rica now… very few Panamanians would dare criticize Panama publicly in a website like this one; that has been my point all along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny,</p>
<p>First of all, Costa Rica is not a famous banking center and it will never be; it would be really stupid to claim otherwise. Banking sucks in Costa Rica, everything takes 2 or 3 permits and several weeks.</p>
<p>Second of all, the post from March 9th DOES say that Panama is &#8220;second largest international banking center&#8221; therefore comment on the 19th.</p>
<p>Third of all, Panama is only modern if you look at the few blocks of the financial district and maybe some nice neighborhoods like Costa del Este, Paitilla, etc. May I remind you Panama has 75000 km2, how much of that is modern? … Not to mention that if (by mistake) you drive into the ghetto areas they make Costa Rica’s worst neighborhoods look like child play. It happened to me, I got lost and drove to “Chorrillos” (or something like that)… I almost shit in my pants.</p>
<p>Forth of all, I never said the author of this article was Panamanian or desperate, I wasn&#8217;t talking about him. I think it’s pretty obvious to everyone who reads this site he’s not Panamanian, he’s probably Northamerican.</p>
<p>Fifth of all, if Panama is so much better, why is it so hard to find skilled labor in Panama? How come Intel hasn&#8217;t moved to Panama? How come most Ticos in Panama are hired by call centers but most Panamanians in Costa Rica are taxi drivers? How come most of your skilled labor comes from other countries? How come Costa Rica still gets better Gini Index values and better Quality-Of-Life rankings? How come we are happier? </p>
<p>But to be fair, Panama gets shit done. Costa Rica doesn’t.  Panama has a well defined high class that runs the country, to their benefit of course, but at least they DO something. Here in Costa Rica everything takes forever. You see, I’m criticizing Costa Rica now… very few Panamanians would dare criticize Panama publicly in a website like this one; that has been my point all along.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://www.latinworld.com/2009/costa-rica-vs-panama-round-3-people-and-culture.htm/comment-page-1#comment-12173</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 06:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sebastian your problem is that you cannot stand the fact that Panama has passed Costa Rica in almost all aspects and your country is way far behind when it comes to modernism. 

I have read a great deal of comments coming from tourists, which are not Panamanians and not Ticos and most of them have come to the conclusion that Panama is far better than Costa Rica and that is something which you cannot cope with. 

You talked about our beaches. Boy let me tell you something about our beaches. They are unbelievable. No comparison whatsoever. Both in the Pacific and in the Caribbean side of Panama. 

You also mentioned the ignorant claims that most Panamanians make in a desperate attempt to make Panama look &quot;cool&quot; to the rest of the world. Did you actually read that comment? Did you understand that comment? The author of that remark clearly stated that he wasn&#039;t Panamanian or Tico. He was from a third party, meaning a third country; therefore, I see no reason for you to type what you typed. Why did you have to offend Panamanians calling us ignorants? when it wasn&#039;t a Panamanian who made this statement.

Panama is not the second largest banking center in the world. We have never claimed that, however, we are the first one in LATAM.
We do have the second largest duty free zone in the world. Second to Hong Kong and first one in the western hemisphere. Probably that is what sread tried to say. But my question for you would be: Is Costa Rica a famous banking center? if so? How many banks are operating there right now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sebastian your problem is that you cannot stand the fact that Panama has passed Costa Rica in almost all aspects and your country is way far behind when it comes to modernism. </p>
<p>I have read a great deal of comments coming from tourists, which are not Panamanians and not Ticos and most of them have come to the conclusion that Panama is far better than Costa Rica and that is something which you cannot cope with. </p>
<p>You talked about our beaches. Boy let me tell you something about our beaches. They are unbelievable. No comparison whatsoever. Both in the Pacific and in the Caribbean side of Panama. </p>
<p>You also mentioned the ignorant claims that most Panamanians make in a desperate attempt to make Panama look &#8220;cool&#8221; to the rest of the world. Did you actually read that comment? Did you understand that comment? The author of that remark clearly stated that he wasn&#8217;t Panamanian or Tico. He was from a third party, meaning a third country; therefore, I see no reason for you to type what you typed. Why did you have to offend Panamanians calling us ignorants? when it wasn&#8217;t a Panamanian who made this statement.</p>
<p>Panama is not the second largest banking center in the world. We have never claimed that, however, we are the first one in LATAM.<br />
We do have the second largest duty free zone in the world. Second to Hong Kong and first one in the western hemisphere. Probably that is what sread tried to say. But my question for you would be: Is Costa Rica a famous banking center? if so? How many banks are operating there right now?</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.latinworld.com/2009/costa-rica-vs-panama-round-3-people-and-culture.htm/comment-page-1#comment-8904</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny thing with what &quot;sread&quot; says is that, last time I checked, CR was the one famous for its beaches, not Panama. Panama’s the one trying to bite into the tourism business. I’m not saying Panama doesn’t have good beaches, it does. It could have better waitresses though, that know how to be polite and that look a little better.

Second largest international banking center? You see! that&#039;s what I&#039;m talking about! Most panamanians will make ignorant claims like this in a desperate attempt to make their country look “cool” to the rest of the world. 

Let me tell you about international banking centers: New York City, London, Tokio, Frankfurt, Paris, Switzerland. According to you, only one of those is bigger than Panama and all the others are smaller, did I get that right? LOL.

Panama’s only a banking center because we all hide our money there to avoid paying taxes, yes sir, myself included.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny thing with what &#8220;sread&#8221; says is that, last time I checked, CR was the one famous for its beaches, not Panama. Panama’s the one trying to bite into the tourism business. I’m not saying Panama doesn’t have good beaches, it does. It could have better waitresses though, that know how to be polite and that look a little better.</p>
<p>Second largest international banking center? You see! that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m talking about! Most panamanians will make ignorant claims like this in a desperate attempt to make their country look “cool” to the rest of the world. </p>
<p>Let me tell you about international banking centers: New York City, London, Tokio, Frankfurt, Paris, Switzerland. According to you, only one of those is bigger than Panama and all the others are smaller, did I get that right? LOL.</p>
<p>Panama’s only a banking center because we all hide our money there to avoid paying taxes, yes sir, myself included.</p>
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		<title>By: sread</title>
		<link>http://www.latinworld.com/2009/costa-rica-vs-panama-round-3-people-and-culture.htm/comment-page-1#comment-8357</link>
		<dc:creator>sread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Seba--don&#039;t get too caught up with a single statistic and let it blind you from the reality :) Take it from a third party between both countries--if you want national parks, cute ziplines, and communites for 60+ year old gringos ...you go to CR. If you want the second largest international banking center, a modern and metropolitan city that actually has nightlife, as well as world class beaches...you&#039;ll go to Panama. It&#039;s that simple...with all those internet users you guys boast, it should be easy for you to figure out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Seba&#8211;don&#8217;t get too caught up with a single statistic and let it blind you from the reality <img src='http://www.latinworld.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Take it from a third party between both countries&#8211;if you want national parks, cute ziplines, and communites for 60+ year old gringos &#8230;you go to CR. If you want the second largest international banking center, a modern and metropolitan city that actually has nightlife, as well as world class beaches&#8230;you&#8217;ll go to Panama. It&#8217;s that simple&#8230;with all those internet users you guys boast, it should be easy for you to figure out.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaime</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 03:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Panamanian who knows both Panama and Costa Rica very well.  First of all, I must say that the journalist who wrote this article really knows what he is talking about.  Interestingly enough, I have found that many foreigners prefer Panama over other Central American countries for business and living in spite of the snobbish attitude sometimes found in the Panamanian Capital.  The fact is that money goes a longer way in Panama and Americans do like to shop.  There are more brands to choose from and at a lower price in Panama.  The nightlife and an overall busier more active prosperous city exist by far more in Panama than in Costa Rica.  American expats probably will make an easier transition moving to Panama.  However, Costa Rica is great place to live.  I like the people, the weather, and the culture of Costa Rica.  As a Panamanian, I must say that we couldn’t get better neighbors.  Although the trend seems to be changing, there are still more American retirees in Costa Rica than in Panama.   Poverty exists in both countries.  I would say in similar amounts.  Population is bigger in Costa Rica than in Panama, like over a million more people live in Costa Rica, which makes it difficult to argue numbers of internet users.  Highly educated workers from Costa Rica and other countries are often hired and welcome in Panama.  And Panamanian know how is sought after in Costa Rica, especially in the banking sector.   Both countries are nice and have a lot to offer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Panamanian who knows both Panama and Costa Rica very well.  First of all, I must say that the journalist who wrote this article really knows what he is talking about.  Interestingly enough, I have found that many foreigners prefer Panama over other Central American countries for business and living in spite of the snobbish attitude sometimes found in the Panamanian Capital.  The fact is that money goes a longer way in Panama and Americans do like to shop.  There are more brands to choose from and at a lower price in Panama.  The nightlife and an overall busier more active prosperous city exist by far more in Panama than in Costa Rica.  American expats probably will make an easier transition moving to Panama.  However, Costa Rica is great place to live.  I like the people, the weather, and the culture of Costa Rica.  As a Panamanian, I must say that we couldn’t get better neighbors.  Although the trend seems to be changing, there are still more American retirees in Costa Rica than in Panama.   Poverty exists in both countries.  I would say in similar amounts.  Population is bigger in Costa Rica than in Panama, like over a million more people live in Costa Rica, which makes it difficult to argue numbers of internet users.  Highly educated workers from Costa Rica and other countries are often hired and welcome in Panama.  And Panamanian know how is sought after in Costa Rica, especially in the banking sector.   Both countries are nice and have a lot to offer.</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pierre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having lived in both Panama and Costa Rica, I would not bother to make any comparisson amongst them, being both equally pleasant and welcoming. However, each individual -acording to its life plan- may find one more attractive over the other one, but again such assesment in entirely dependent on the individual&#039;s requirements.

in 2008 I chose Panama to settle in because it was more akin to my trade (engineering) and the inmmigration proceeeds where simple and expeditious. Both economies are service oriented but with evident spaces for subtantial improvements, if benchmarked against other latinamerican emerging economies (Chile, Brasil, Mexico etc..). In both cases I have witnessed a growing trend of commercial competitiveness but outside the realm of bussiness of the established Who&#039;s Who (economical and political status quo). If anyone in planning to settle in either Costa Rica or Panama, his business plan necessarily consider foreign markets as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having lived in both Panama and Costa Rica, I would not bother to make any comparisson amongst them, being both equally pleasant and welcoming. However, each individual -acording to its life plan- may find one more attractive over the other one, but again such assesment in entirely dependent on the individual&#8217;s requirements.</p>
<p>in 2008 I chose Panama to settle in because it was more akin to my trade (engineering) and the inmmigration proceeeds where simple and expeditious. Both economies are service oriented but with evident spaces for subtantial improvements, if benchmarked against other latinamerican emerging economies (Chile, Brasil, Mexico etc..). In both cases I have witnessed a growing trend of commercial competitiveness but outside the realm of bussiness of the established Who&#8217;s Who (economical and political status quo). If anyone in planning to settle in either Costa Rica or Panama, his business plan necessarily consider foreign markets as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Ugalde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Ugalde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was brought up playing soccer bare foot in a muddy field with cows in northern Costa Rica. It was the time of my life. I&#039;ve seen so many Arenal eruptions of all sizes because of all those afternoons playing ball.

Twenty years later the Arenal has grown a twin crater. From a certain angle it looks like a beast with two heads. It&#039;s great to have a drink soaked to one&#039;s chin in pool of hot springs and watch the beast breathe fire.

I&#039;ve never been to Panama and I&#039;m sure it is nice there, but Costa Rica cannot be equaled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was brought up playing soccer bare foot in a muddy field with cows in northern Costa Rica. It was the time of my life. I&#8217;ve seen so many Arenal eruptions of all sizes because of all those afternoons playing ball.</p>
<p>Twenty years later the Arenal has grown a twin crater. From a certain angle it looks like a beast with two heads. It&#8217;s great to have a drink soaked to one&#8217;s chin in pool of hot springs and watch the beast breathe fire.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never been to Panama and I&#8217;m sure it is nice there, but Costa Rica cannot be equaled.</p>
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